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Transmissions, which plots the story of Joy Division and New Order, returns for a second run. Plus: five of the best sci-fi podcasts

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Bernard Sumner, Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook and Stephen Morris of New Order.
Bernard Sumner, Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook and Stephen Morris of New Order. Photograph: Pictorial Press Ltd/Alamy

In case you missed it, Serial’s Sarah Koenig was recently interviewed by Fiona Sturges for the Guardian, on 10 years of Serial. It was an intriguing interview about how web sleuths had changed Koenig’s own view of the Adnan Syed case that made her podcast such a huge hit back in 2014. But one section struck me as pretty surprising, if not totally shocking. Good friends and family, Koenig said – “like, even my siblings” – had asked her whether its fourth series, on Guantánamo Bay, had been released yet (it came out in March). “We can speculate about the topic and the quality of it, but I think it’s also just the [pod] universe is completely different,” she added. “There are so many choices. We are in a sea of podcasts.”

Serial season four isn’t a whodunnit – Serial hasn’t really done that since its inception, and that first series that hinged on whether Syed had killed his high-school sweetheart Hae Min Lee. Successive outings have also leaned less on the serialisation you might assume from the title, with the Guantánamo series focusing instead on somewhat interlinked stories of life at the notorious US prison camp, rather than one overarching, unfurling narrative. In many ways, it’s kind of become a podcast Ship of Theseus, its elements slowly changing with each season. Still, it’s slightly sad to think that some people may have abandoned it just because it isn’t that same show it was at that very specific moment in time, pre-true crime boom, rather than something that has changed and evolved over a decade. Plus, the Guantánamo series is pretty solid (although, beware – episode eight in particular comes with some deeply upsetting details of sexual assault).

Read on for our picks of the week, including a very starry new interview series hosted by Cush Jumbo, and do remember you can send any comments and suggestions for Hear Here to newsletters@theguardian.com.

Hannah J Davies
Deputy editor, newsletters

Picks of the week

Cush Jumbo, host of Origins.
Cush Jumbo, host of Origins. Photograph: Darren Gerrish/WireImage for Royal Academy

Origins With Cush Jumbo
Widely available, episodes weekly

Cush Jumbo is always good fun when doing press interviews for her work (The Good Wife, Criminal Record, Hamlet) – and she’s just as great now the tables are turned in her first podcast. She speaks to stars about their origin stories, including Kate Nash, Harlan Coben, David Schwimmer and, in episode one, Anna Wintour, who says she hates people who waffle and recalls getting fired from Harper’s Bazaar because she couldn’t pin a dress. Hollie Richardson

Rebel Spirit
Widely available, episodes weekly
Comedian Akilah Hughes gives her serious mission a light touch as she returns to her Kentucky home town to try to change her high school’s racist mascot from a Confederate general to a biscuit. Can she drag the school into the modern age – and what will the change mean to her and other pupils? Hannah Verdier

Sara & Cariad’s Weirdos Book Club
Widely available, episodes weekly
Sara Pascoe and Cariad Lloyd go beyond the usual selections with season two of their book club for people who don’t want to discuss reading over cheese and wine. First up is Roisin Conaty with Standard Deviation, Katherine Heiny’s lovely novel about a mismatched couple parenting as best they can. HV

Then & Now
Widely available, episodes weekly
Was parenting and childhood better when Babátúndé and Leonie Aléshé were young? The couple have plenty of cackles and chemistry in their new podcast, which looks at the way parenting has changed. Although Babátúndé is the comedian, his wife gives him a run for his money and isn’t afraid to roast where necessary. HV

Transmissions: The Definitive Story of Joy Division and New Order
Widely available, episodes weekly
Fans of New Order are in for a treat with this second season, which picks up the band’s story as they “go from black and white to colour” with Power, Corruption & Lies. Band members and famous admirers provide great stories about a new era in which working with Arthur Baker, soaking up the beginnings of dance culture in Ibiza and birthing World in Motion became a reality. HV

There’s a podcast for that

LeVar Burton in Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek: The Next Generation’s LeVar Burton: the surprising host of LeVar Burton Reads Photograph: Ronald Grant

This week, Graeme Virtue chooses five of the best podcasts on science fiction stories, from an alternative Marvel universe to star-studded tech thrillers

Escape Pod
The sci-fi tales featured on Escape Pod often explore dazzling or unsettling futures. But this lovely treasury of speculative fiction is practically prehistoric in podcast terms, having first launched in 2005. Each instalment presents a short story – a mixture of originals and fiction curated from other sci-fi outlets – in no-frills audiobook style. Episodes average half an hour in length so entire galactic empires can rise and fall during the time it takes to walk the dog. A back catalogue of over 900 stories sounds daunting (here’s where to start) but Escape Pod has never lost touch with its DIY origins.

Ad Lucem
The podcasting space has been a hothouse for sci-fi audio dramas with impressively swooshing audio design and at least one big Hollywood name attached. The sleek but unsettling conspiracy thriller Ad Lucem is a state-of-the-art example, although its darker themes and occasional swearing may not be for everyone. While set in 2032 on the eve of a transformative tech launch, its roots are in the touch-starved traumas of the pandemic. It posits the question: what if your voice assistant could hug you? Olivia Wilde, Chris Pine and co-creator Troian Bellisario are the headline stars, but seasoned pros Fiona Shaw and Clancy Brown are immaculate in the margins.

LeVar Burton Reads
Actor and director LeVar Burton (pictured above) will forever be associated with science fiction after his long stint on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Before he played chief engineer Geordi La Forge, though, Burton hosted US educational TV series Reading Rainbow, helping multiple generations of school kids improve their literacy. Both those career threads combine in LeVar Burton Reads, a celebration of fantastical short fiction that ran for over 200 episodes before wrapping up earlier this year (it ended with a classic tale by sci-fi godhead Ray Bradbury). As you might expect, Burton is a skilled and evocative narrator, and after each story concludes he also shares some of his reactions and insights, an added layer of intimacy that helps each one linger in the mind.

Marvel’s Wastelanders
Are you fed up with spandex-clad superheroes? Good news: in the world of Wastelanders, most of the Avengers get horribly murdered in a sneak attack. Decades later, the US is a post-apocalyptic patchwork of fiefdoms ruled by villains. This Mad Max version of the Marvel universe is the brutal backdrop for vivid character studies of five over-the-hill survivors: goofball space cop Star-Lord (Timothy Busfield), bitter circus act Hawkeye (Stephen Lang), aloof spy Black Widow (Susan Sarandon), angry loner Wolverine (Robert Patrick) and sidelined tyrant Doom (Dylan Baker). Immersive world-building and a rich vein of satirical humour help make each series a rollicking ride even before the scattered misfits all team up for one last hurrah.

Clarkesworld Magazine
Dedicated science fiction magazines publishing stories in the 1940s helped to popularise the genre. Fast-forward to the present day and it makes sense for sci-fi periodicals – from 1970s warhorse Asimov’s Science Fiction to digital anthology Lightspeed Magazine – to have an audio spinoff. The long-running Clarkesworld Magazine podcast offers a horizon-expanding spectrum of science fiction and fantasy stories, often shining a light on international tales in translation. Episodes range from 10-minute snapshots to multi-part novellas and if there is a tantalising sense that anything can happen, Kate Baker – the podcast’s host and narrator since 2009 – provides a welcoming throughline of consistency.

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  • BBC satire Everything Is News pairs a former foreign affairs correspondent (played by real-life journalist turned comedian Helen Price) with an ousted cabinet minister (actor Michael Clark) in a skewering of the “Centrist Dads Podcast” genre.