Hello, John!
Franciscan friar and author Richard Rohr has been bringing the spirit of St. Francis to the wider world for decades. This week, he joined Brené Brown on her podcast, Unlocking Us, where they discussed passages from his best-selling book Breathing Under Water: Spirituality and the Twelve Steps.
Breathing Under Water discusses the addictions and dependencies we all struggle with, walks through the Twelve Steps and their connection to the spiritual life, and demonstrates how letting go of certainty and embracing the unknown is key not only to overcoming addiction but also to becoming closer to God.