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Valentino Livramento
camera Hands up if you think it was a penalty? Photograph: Franck Fife/AFP/Getty Images
29/11/2023

Newcastle, PSG and a handball call we can all agree on, right?

Michael Butler
 

FACTS ARE SACRED … COMMENT IS FUN?

Bob Mortimer hates opinions. The preface of his (excellent) autobiography, And Away … includes the important point that the book contains “very little opinion or advice”. And yet he loves football, a sport where it is almost impossible not to have an opinion. And he has a football-related podcast, Athletico Mince, where he is forced to give his two pence. “I have spent 50 years making sure I have no opinions,” he explained to Adam Buxton in 2018. “And then I signed up for a football opinion show, so I had to change that quite quickly.” Football will do that to you. Referees, managers, pundits and tea-timely emails are all paid to have an opinion. And thank goodness for that. It would be deathly boring if everything in the beautiful game was a statement of fact. If everyone agreed that Alejandro Garnacho’s volley was better than Wayne Rooney’s, or that José Mourinho is a better manager than Pep Guardiola, then the world, the pub, the pillow-talk – we presume – and the group chat would be a poorer place.

One of life’s great joys is reading the opinions of L’Équipe, especially after a PSG game. Following Newcastle’s visit to Paris, Big Website’s cousins from across the channel did not disappoint with their infamous ratings: Ousmane Dembélé was gifted a 6/10 despite wandering around the right wing with all the menace and inquiry of Geoff Shreeves at an Indian restaurant. Tino Livramento and Anthony Gordon, both excellent on the night, were only afforded 5/10, while Lewis Miley received a 4/10, despite the 17-year-old’s astounding display on his first Big Cup start. Opinions, even bad ones, are fun … sometimes.

There are, however, a few things in football that are not up for debate. We can all agree that Frank Lampard’s shot against Germany crossed the line, a binary decision. We can all agree that Arsenal’s fluorescent tiger-striped away kit belongs in a bin. And, like Eddie Howe, we can all agree that PSG should not have been awarded a penalty in injury time against Newcastle. The reasons why Livramento should not have been punished are many (the ball deflected first off the Newcastle defender’s chest, plus his proximity to Dembélé, and the fact that his arm was in a natural running position). There is probably a wider discussion about VAR being fit for purpose, whether decisions being correct are more important than sucking the fun out of the game, whether we should care at all about the plight of two teams backed by Saudi and Qatari wealth.

But two important consequences have emerged from the fiasco. The first is that the VAR, Tomasz Kwiatkowski, who recommended to review the on-field decision, has been stood down from Big Cup duties on Wednesday; as close to an admission of Uefa guilt that Howe and co will get. The second is that there was one Newcastle fan, Carl, who rang up TalkSport to say he had to turn his Christmas lights off after the match because it made him too miserable, while a second caller, Peter, had to fight back tears, his high-pitched north-east accent resembling a character that Mortimer would have been proud of. Absolutely electric festive entertainment. Opinions, even bad ones, are fun … sometimes.

LIVE ON BIG WEBSITE

Join Barry Glendenning at 5.45pm GMT for hot minute-by-minute updates of Galatasaray 2-1 Manchester United in Big Cup, while Rob Smyth will bring you Arsenal 3-1 Lens from 8pm.

QUOTE OF THE DAY

“It’s the best goal I’ve scored! They were being slow with the ball, borderline time-wasting. The lad’s gone down from the corner – the keeper – when no one’s touched him. Then the ref’s giving him the ball back and he’s waiting for me to come up to him … so I’ve probably nudged into him, yeah. There’s a little bit of contact but absolutely nowhere near enough to drop the ball and fall on the floor. I’ve been desperate for that first goal … so there was no chance I wasn’t putting the ball in the back of the net. Keepers notoriously get a lot more decisions, but in a scenario like that there is absolutely no need for him to go down and drop the ball – kudos to the ref for seeing that and working out on the balance of play that it wasn’t a foul” – if you see a more bizarre goal this season than Sam Cosgrove’s injury-time winner for Barnsley against Wycombe last night (Gary Crosby for millennials?) Football Daily will happily eat its own socks – and we’ve been wearing them for at least a week.

Sam Cosgrove on his way to the ‘best goal’ he’s scored
camera Sam Cosgrove on his way to the ‘best goal’ he’s scored. Photograph: News Images Ltd/Alamy

FOOTBALL DAILY LETTERS

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An unfortunate incident with a Video Assistant Referee in Paris? But let’s not forget the true winner – the petrochemical industry” – Darren Leathley.

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While technically brilliant on his behalf, Alejandro Garnacho’s overhead kick at Everton came about because of a hopeless cross, as many of these goals do. I prefer a team goal with many passes (Barry Glendenning and I agree on the beauty of Ethan Pinnock’s goal against Liverpool) or a blistering counterattack. I propose separating out the over-hyped overhead kick from the real goal of the season contenders” – Tony Wilson.

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Mention of World In Motion (yesterday’s Memory Lane, full email edition) reminds me to share this. If you’ve never heard it [we have, but others might want to feel our pain – Football Daily Ed], I can only apologise, but I’ve suffered long enough and it’s your turn now. Yes, it’s Peter Beardsley doing the rap” – Mike Slattery.

Send any letters to the.boss@theguardian.com. Today’s letter o’ the day winner is … Darren Leathley, who lands a copy of Woman Up, by Carrie Dunn. We’ve got more to give away, so get typing.

WHEN IN ROME

The famous Brendan Rodgers went to Rome to see the Pope ♪ ♬ ♪ The famous Brendan Rodgers went to Rome to see the Pope ♪ ♬ ♪ The famous Brendan Rodgers went to Rome to see the Pope ♪ ♬ ♪ … and gave him a personalised Celtic shirt as they were dumped out of Europe again.

Brendan Rodgers and the Pope
camera And it was signed, too Photograph: Vatican Media/AFP/Getty Images

CAM-BRIDGE TOO FAR

14 September: “We are all pleased that Mark has signed this new contract. He is [a] very talented coach and a fantastic leader of this football club – someone who has been a very important part of our recent past and has a big role to play in our future” – Cambridge United majority owner Paul Barry trumpets the new deal given to manager Mark Bonner.

29 November: “In football, sometimes you do have to make decisions you believe are right for the long-term future of the club” – that role isn’t as big as thought as Barry sends Bonner through the Abbey Stadium’s door marked Do One.

Jack Vale celebrates scoring Lincoln’s third goal in their 3-0 win at Cambridge on Tuesday night
camera Jack Vale celebrates scoring Lincoln’s third goal in their 3-0 win at Cambridge on Tuesday night. Photograph: Andrew Vaughan/CameraSport/Getty Images

MOVING THE GOALPOSTS

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NEWS, BITS AND BOBS

Union Berlin’s Marie-Louise Eta will make history when she takes her place in the dugout at Braga on Wednesday to become the first female assistant manager in a men’s Big Cup match.

Marie-Louise Eta (right) makes her way to the dugout for Union Berlin’s match against Augsburg
camera Good luck Marie-Louise! She may need it given Union’s season so far … Photograph: Boris Streubel/Getty Images

Erik ten Hag has dug out his inner Yoda, telling Manchester United players to be cool like Jedis in Galatasaray’s new version of hell. “You have to stay calm in your head and don’t get too emotional,” he soothed. “Control emotion, don’t give them anything.”

Jürgen Klopp has confirmed that Alisson will be sidelined by hamstring twang for two weeks while Diogo Jota’s unspecified knack will keep him on the Liverpool physio table for “a little bit longer”.

Manchester United’s Millie Turner is buzzing like peak Bez after her “quite unexpected” England call-up. “I think my neighbours at the start were hating me because I was jumping around my house,” she whooped. “For me, it’s all I’ve ever dreamed of, all I’ve ever hoped of.”

Millie Turner bringing more than vibes, earlier
camera Millie Turner bringing more than vibes, earlier. Photograph: Peter Cziborra/Action Images/Reuters

Exeter’s director of egg-chasing has warned football to be careful what it wishes for with plans for sin-bins. “I will be honest with you, I am very surprised football are doing it,” sighed Rob Baxter. “I was a bit surprised when football went to VAR, and I am not sure how much they realised they were letting the genie out of the bottle.”

And maybe it was the full moon that’s been causing yet more weirdness in the Football League. In League Two, a vintage Charlie Austin put Swindon 4-0 up at Accrington in the 90th minute. The remaining moments were a joyful cruise to victory then, weren’t they? Nope. Nine minutes of injury-time later, it was 4-3 and the Robins were clinging on for dear life, just about seeing it out.

Wham Stadium
camera To be fair the eerie-looking Wham Stadium looked like the perfect setting for weirdness. Photograph: Paul Greenwood/Shutterstock

RECOMMENDED LISTENING

Max Rushden and the pod squad get stuck into the handball law again and talk more VAR as they look back on the fun and games in Paris and west London.

The Guardian Podcasts

STILL WANT MORE?

Before the VAR caused late havoc at Parc des Princes, 17-year-old Lewis Miley put in a statement Big Cup performance for Eddie Howe’s side, as Jonathan Liew explains.

There are big face-offs that never happened and lengthy chains of substitutes untangled in this week’s Knowledge.

And after a shaky start, André Onana is beginning to find his feet at Manchester United, reckons Ben McAleer. So expect to read this in our MBM report later … “Goal! Galatasaray 1-0 Manchester United (Zaha 2 min): Onana tries a Cruyff turn in his own box but gets it horribly wrong. He slips as he tries to scramble back to goal and falls over. Gala score. Oh dear!”

MEMORY LANE

The temperature is expected to drop for matches across the UK this weekend, particularly so in Manchester, where Pep Guardiola’s City host Tottenham on Sunday. Here’s a wintry scene from that same fixture in December 1967, when City romped to a 4-1 win amid heavy snow showers at Maine Road. Same scoreline again?

Man City 4-1 Tottenham, in 1967
camera Photograph: Mirrorpix/Getty Images

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