I’ve been talking and texting with Susan about all things Israel for weeks, and wanted you, our readers, to know what’s behind the new byline you’ll be seeing in our pages. So we had a deeper chat yesterday via Zoom — I caught Susan on her way back from a preview of the National Western Stock Show, Denver’s annual homage to large ranch animals. Which is, perhaps, a story for another day.
What are your strongest memories from your visits to Israel? What do you love — or hate — about it? What intrigues you most?
The first time I went as an adult, I was on a bus to Eilat. We were at a random bus stop and it had rained, and there was a rainbow. And so a man, like, pulled out a prayer you say when there's a rainbow.
To be with someone who found spirituality upon seeing a rainbow — because that's where I can kind of get my spirituality from, nature — was just the most moving thing to me ever. That is no doubt my most beautiful Israel moment.
And the last time I was there, being at the Western Wall, and just — I am not very religious at all, like at all, but just literally breaking down in a way that I have never done except maybe once, when I was on acid in college.
My experience in Israel has been one where people are very comfortable with strong opinions. I live now in Denver, where having a strong opinion is a little bit, like, kind of impolite. I find Israel to be the opposite of that, right? It's a country of strong opinions, and big personalities, and there's some thing very beautiful about that.
And I love any place where I can get pomegranate juice, fresh squeezed.
You worked at your high school newspaper in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, and have a master’s degree in creative nonfiction from Johns Hopkins. What’s your journalism origin story?
I went, at age 16, to this program at Northwestern, because I thought I wanted to be a journalist. And they said, ‘Yeah, you can't do that’ — or I figured I can't do that — because I couldn't have a political sign or give to campaigns. And I do have, like, really big opinions. I thought, well, that cannot be the the job for me, because I'm not a cyborg in that way. So I thought that I would go into academia, comparative literature.
I took a year off before applying to grad school to work as a reporter in the Mojave Desert. I moved from Manhattan to Victorville, California. I covered local politics. How ordinances get passed, where water comes from. I covered a trial of a man who killed, grilled and ate his neighbor’s dog.
It was just so interesting, how could I ever go into academia? Because the act of reporting is literally always being surprised, always having your assumptions turned upside down. And that’s what’s so fun about it, and what’s such a privilege about it.
If you are someone whose serotonin is triggered by curiosity, then the act of having license to ask people questions — and to help them ask questions and get answers that they’ve not been able to get for themselves — is incredible. I mean, everything is just so much more interesting than it is on the surface and than we assume it is.
When I asked for some photos, you sent one of you in red cowboy boots on an empty street during COVID lockdown, and another with a trout you caught fly-fishing. And you just got back from ogling livestock! What’s up with you and the American West?
I fell in love with the West on a Jewish teen tour when I was 15, and I just knew I’d come back here. What did I love? Everything about it! The mountains, the light, the rivers, the sky, the people.
I came here when there were two newspapers — I really wanted a two-newspaper town. I was hired as the bad guy, the bad cop, to cover the mayor for The Denver Post. We had two or three reporters covering him. And I was always the bad cop, the one the mayor doesn't like, doesn't talk to.
Because I was writing harder stories. Cronyism, contracts, bond sales. Investigative stuff that you do when you cover a city government. It’s Denver; they weren't used to that.
Right. You’ve been a political reporter, local and national, a local news columnist, an investigative reporter and editor, winning prizes for projects about DNA exoneration, police misconduct, mental health issues. What appeals to you right now about the Israel story?
Like everyone, I’ve been just glued to this story since Oct. 7. Everything is uncertain. For Israelis and Palestinians and American Jews, the legitimacy of things like the state of Israel, legitimacy of the U.N., the world.
In a time that was already so tumultuous, this so quickly became so preoccupying to me. And also I was frustrated with some of the coverage. I just wanted deeper coverage, I just wanted to be there doing it.